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@pixelpusher220 yup - if you listen to Madow’s Ultra podcast - you can clearly see the line all the way back to the 30s and 40s.

@jacob ok - ā€˜phenomenal’ too strong - agreed - but however you measure him he recognises that there are way better guitarists - and does something about it … Guthrie hard to beat - but McStine seems to be his new ā€˜better than me’ partner .. but he still has a block on his vocal ability … even when he brings in someone like Ninet Tayeb it is as a different voice / collaborator - not as ’this voice is better than mine - let them take the lead.

I agree Aviv’s voice is not the norm - and i get it - but somehow for me it works. Maybe I am subconsciously allowing for his roots which are not the usual ā€˜western sounds’.

I remember that in a couple of my songs when I was singing, someone ā€œcomplimentedā€ me that it sounded like Geddy’s.

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@jacob cough .. self aware fan boy …

yeah no man is an acquired taste IMHO .. not so much the music, as Tim’s voice. There are certain bands I just fail to engage with .. no matter how much I like the music because of the voice. (I’m looking at you Geddy!)

Even Wilson’s voice sometime grates on me.

It’s interesting that he is a phenomenal guitarist and yet recognizes supreme guitarists and coops people like Guthrie .. but on the voice .. not so much. Blackfield and No Man being exceptions, but then they are joint projects.

@devilgate I’m with @danielpunkass EXCEPT at the time it was music - i think ideology is a ā€˜post punk retro definition’ for most people .. over on LinkedIN i have a couple of Punk friends who are all about ideology and rarely really reference the music other than name drops.

@ayjay from the end of world war 1 to the start of world war 2 - 21 years

@njr thank you .. clarifying.

Hats off to the Verge for not editing it out. Unlike pretty much any other media organisation in America would do. In fact is doing.

If not then - then when?
If not there - then where?

Somewhere nice and quiet so nobody hears?

Yes it’s hard. Yes it wasn’t appropriate? It never is.